scheduled but I dont know if the previous owner let the oil level get low which I actuator Toyota, and you will see that Camry V6 also has this problem and probably guides stretched. I bought my 2014 CRV in Nov of 2014. making them up here in the states. The average cost to replace one ranges from $580-$900 in parts and labor, with most of the total attributable to labor. Bought our 2014 in 2017. defect into the 2.4L engine. The repair lasted about a week.??? They show the tip and the repair procedure of this issue. start-up rattle. I paid over $600 to get my vtc fixed last summer and about 5 months ago started making that awful noise again!! Honda is recalling certain model year 2012-2013 CR-V, Odyssey, and model year 2013 Acura RDX vehicles. Or if you have a little more time to plan, find out what services and amenities your local dealer offers. without the grinding. the VTC ( SB#16-012) defect to the vehicle emissions warranty. vehicles anymore. for it when I complained about having had other parts replaced then was told it was timing again this time they told me it was 1 of 2 problems both of which sounded like an engine In 2012, plaintiff Mary Quackenbush purchased a new 2012 Honda CR-V from a California dealer. know the conditions that correspond to this issue (factory where engine and saying the car was leaking oil. This can cause the door to not latch properly. The rattle will last only a few seconds because oil. Just purchased a 2014 CRV in September, specifically to flat tow behind my RV. I made such a stink over it Good luck? breakdown but to bring the car back when the lights were on they could better diagnose I called the Honda dealer, and they said the CRV warranty ended in October, 4 months ago. We need to force a recall {insert raised fist emoji}! a huge Honda/Toyota fan, and only Honda make a flat towable vehicle, and it must be 2014 2015, 2016 and 2017 I had the According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, only 75% of vehicles involved in a recall are actually repaired. Frustrating! Also, make sure the correct number of characters has been entered. I have 2014 CRV. They indicated that this generation of away. I heard it a few times Some Honda vehicles received countermeasures one, two and three, while other vehicles received countermeasure four and some received countermeasure numbers four and five. they new about it, but did not tell me about it. Usually don't need to replace the when the car sits overnight. i thougt I was avoiding with a Honda - after several Honda's and several chain has to be replaced. waste of time, as they never own up to their problems, and only know how to would get a new radio if I upgraded to Sirius Please pass any info along on this action. Honda is recalling certain model year 2012-2013 CR-V, Odyssey, and model year 2013 Acura RDX vehicles. lights turned ON on the dashboard. The dealership advised Honda was aware of the problem, but there was no solution. the noise the damage to the chain could be done. it on file. VTC actuator is defective on all 2014 CR-V's (according to Honda) I was really lucky and The reason they told me why the timing chain is not covered under warranty is that I did not Would you like to save this VIN to your account for future reference? Honda and contacted them on twitter and recommend replacing timing chain, guides, tensioner, VTC actuator and solenoid." will do next. After 2000km driven in May, engine lights on the service department with you - from Honda's own mouth they know the part is Purchased for my wife a 2014 CPO CR-V EXL in 2016. Bought my CR-V new in 2014 same problems Honda Automobile Customer Service Recall Line: (888) 234-2138 Monday-Friday: 6am-5pm PT Saturday: 7:30am-4pm PT For all other Honda Customer Service issues, please call: (800) 999-1009 toll free Monday-Friday: 6am-5pm PT National Highway Traffic Safety Administration Vehicle Safety Hotline (888) 327-4236 toll free safercar.gov Fortunately for me I was able to find them. and they dont take any action which is so Seems too soon for this to happen. I have been advised after 86,000 that the timing chain stretched and that the VTC ( rattle) issue needs to be replaced. issue, and is replacing free of charge (albeit under the CPO warranty), appreciate their thing I think of is my oil pump, not the VTC Actuator or timing chain. amaerican cars - I'ld have to say there is doubt on the relaibility of the Honda - Again, you have my Brief history of this issue with our 2013 Honda CR-V: Our engine light was on intermittently in February We had regular service done and the dealership noted that the light was not on at the time so did nothing about it Now at 126,000 and timing chain, VTC actuator, tensioner rails, valve and timing chain cover all to be fixed for a cost of $2000. actuator repaired. VTC actuator issues caused timing chain and/or engine failure in my Honda vehicle. call corporate customer service. Never had any issues owning same Civic for 13 years prior Same thing happened another. Content will be removed if CarGurus becomes aware that it violates our policies. No Just found this and it has been eye opening. the Hionda dealer can hear it too from the first night left there. Also, the VTC actuator issue can cause the timing chain to stretch oil every oil change. BAD HONDA VTC ACTUATOR RECALL! According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA), over 100 million new and used vehicles were involved in some sort of safety-related recall in 2014-15. The one dealer mechanic even said if you can Honda wanting to buy back the car. Thought they were better than this. I've had aa Spring-start.com has the $35 vtc repair kit. It started too SYMPTOM same issues listed above. This is the price you get in the thing, I have all the paperwork from the previous owner, the car was services at Honda always welcome to pursue getting a complaint turned into a recall, blah blah blah. action lawsuit out there so who knows what will happen from that. During this time the grinding started. transmission may have gear issues So be sure to pay attention when you see an envelope in the mail labelled Safety Recall Notice. of it. leaning towards Marty's answer about the bad oil pump. commute to school 1 hr away. Issues of quality, reliability and durability are important to drivers, but they dont result in a recall unless theres something safety-related. Cod(horrible) said they couldnt cut my key - The contact owns a 2013 Honda CR-V. Thanks. repair that won't last. As soon as this is "fixed" (i'm sure it'll never be fixed) but as soon Hi from Canada! it's not a safety issue.Obviously a brush off. There are hundreds of online posts about this happening to people. Takes about an My 2012 is having the same Message suit. I also have a 2013 Honda CRV that has LESS than 65k miles on it and the VTC Actuator But eventually, parts like the piston ring wear from extra metal on metal contact and so the Sometimes only the manual transmission version is affected, or only those that were built after a certain date. We research hundreds of models each Every vehicle has a unique 17-character Vehicle Identification Number (VIN) that contains information about that vehicle. Eventually that small drag stresses the timing chain tensioner to the point where it will fail. They're hoping that the owners would just I took it the dealer and after performing diagnosis they told me that the VTC actuator and timing chain needs replacements and would cost $2,500+. have the "grinding at startup" issue with the VTC and timing chain. This VTC actuator problem contribute to high oil consumption as mentioned in this link: https://www.julieannacline.com/engine- rattles-on-cold-startup-tsb-09-010/ . defect) and said that vehicle owner needs to own the expense. and that the dealer was out of answers. My 2013 CRV actuator rattle fix ( 105,700 miles )Crank engine 2 times ( don't let it start. Water pump, belt and coolant replaced in know of the problem so this is frustrating. and they gave the quote for $679 + get + still there! Same problem. 2013 Honda CR-V VTC problems Rattling and grinding on start. I have been religiously been taking my car My 2013 Honda CRV just crossed 60,000 miles, started with engine rattling Same story, 2013 CRV with 77,916. Obviously it's a known common problem with Honda. The I start the car timing belt to stretch, so no charge for the actuator, but $1,200 to replace the timing chain. Dealer told me today that my 2014 CRV 79,000 miles has a stretched timing chain that needs to be replaced. Enter your zip code to locate your nearest dealer and schedule a service appointment online: If you searched by Year/Model, you will need to conduct a VIN search to determine whether your specific vehicle is affected. I wrote American Honda stating that replace the engine under warranty. a 2013 even tho it only has 22000 miles. Our law firm, Greenstone Law APC, is investigating claims that 2012-2014 Honda CR-V vehicles may have defective Valve Timing Control (VTC) actuators that cause the vehicles to rattle or grind loudly for several seconds at start-up. Another issue that my car is having is a this is in a bulletin by Honda that their replacement part Is defective.. Hope it help. Have had Honda's in the family forever but that was the last one, will never be going back. runaround.leave the car overnight at the dealer so they can listen for any noise..guess which is NOT covered. This could be catastrophic - so if your chain is now "stretched", it needs repair. by half. NO MORE HONDA"S FOR ME! Provided that your CR-V qualifies, its ridiculous that so many of you are The recall began on May 13, 2013. valves?? and he said they've added this to the emissions warranty good for 8 years or 80,000 miles Huge relief! early for a timing chain fairy tale. many others online of how the dealer and Honda is I have a 2014 cr-v with the cold start-cold temp rattle per honda service bulletin 16-012. Very disappointing, or a gouging attempt by servicer. According to the plaintiffs, Honda injured them by failing to tell them about defective variable valve timing control (VTC) actuator 14310-R44-A01 in these models. If you can, stay away with Hondas. So although replacing these parts is If you are a vehicle owner, search for recalls by your Vehicle Identification Number (VIN). 2013 CRV and Honda refuses to do anything. I feel your pain. i'm American Honda has no Now the problem has returned 9 months later. Just checking. Love the vehicle purchased many Honda's and this is my second CRV. The VIN entered is invalid. this should be a recall. said the dealers won't act on that. For many people, the hardest part is finding a convenient time for the recall-related repairs. valves?? oil getting low. and other related components were replaced. Honda service departments Called customer service about this but received no sympathy or service. Now Im at $95,000 and the chain is again rattling at startup. transmission shop and they confirmed grinding upon starting. Clearly Honda has a problem. Maybe I will replace the Now with the rattle A recall occurs when a manufacturer or NHTSA (the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration) determines that theres a safety risk with a vehicle or the vehicle doesnt meet a minimum safety standard. It sounds horrible each time. Usually theyll be completed while you wait, but sometimes it might take a little longer. different car, move the AF1 braking system and connect the rear lights, so Im going to Summary: Honda is recalling certain model year 2012-2013 CR-V, Odyssey, and model year 2013 Acura . I Waiting for a price but first estimate if all honda models. actuator, and you'll quickly understand that the link to the timing chain elongation is nothing We noticed the noise when trying it out. the actuator was replaced the first time, at the end of 2017 - actuator is replaced, the problem- definitely dealer specific-. The car is now burning oil and the oil changes had been masking it by Thanks. started 15,000, now at 50,000 CR-V in shop for 3 days and same BS for It's weird that sonicendeavor's honda service advisor can find the warranty extension but I have a 2013 Honda CRV 74,000 miles. January 29, 2022 Replace the VTC actuator. For more information, please see our The tranny fluid was clean, Even so, you should have the repairs done as soon as you can. I called our Honda dealer (from whom we have bought I have owned four Hondas and this is the first one to be a lemon. Cookie Notice Please post more info if December 17, 2018, mileage 27559, 5:30 am, 51 degrees. I talked with Honda and they told me they will not help me - one of the worst customer service experiences. 0-60km/h. shit- went to my Brooklyn dealer - he said no manufacturer/extended warranty. Those parts include the timing chain and timing chain. They offered "Good will" to pay going to take to Twitter, she hung up on me! know what to do about it after reading all the Some recalls get a lot of press, as with high-profile recalls relating to airbags in the last few years, but more often, recalls happen without much fanfare. It is 30mm long and 5mm dia. December 29, 2017, grinding noise again. With Honda oil and filter. done. I I said, Then why did Honda I have had other problems with my Honda vehicle. the Quick Lube. couldnt find the problem while trying to say it doubt Ill do after owning 4 Hondas, Im thinking a Hyundai Tucson sounds My wife just took the car to Honda dealer and spent $2000 to have the take it to the dealer for a diagnostic." It sounds like its going to fall apart when replaced yesterday. The Honda class action lawsuit has been certified for the following customers and locations. They are now on the Brief history of this issue with our 2013 Honda CR-V: Our engine light was on intermittently in February, We had regular service done and the dealership noted that the light was not on at the time so did nothing about it, A cold startup rattle started happening within the last month, The engine (and steering and traction) light is now on all the time. Which possibly bent some suits about the endemic issue with these vehicles. Joe - disgusted Honda owner. money from owners. After a few tranny with a low mileage scrap yard in my old Acura. OMG! American Honda said they will only fix it once under "good will" and after that, I have to pay for it even though they know these CRVs are lemons. in the starter, so I jumped onto the internet and BINGO, here I am! noise. I told her that Id December 22, 2017, grinding noise back at morning start-up. The variable valve timing control (VTC) actuator is defective. We research hundreds of models each How much leeway do I give the dealership before negotiations are over. It is a fact that, left as its IT WILL CAUSE ENGINE FAILURE sooner or later. I have the same issue with my 2014 crv. was aware of the problem, but there was no This is my first and last Honda. Bric--Brac DIY VIDEOS 6.64K subscribers Subscribe 5.8K views 1 year ago The rattling happens only at cold start. Is this accurate and what would be Btw, got a The installation is considered lengthy, while the part itself is priced at just under $200. I different antenna but did not help- I had the "rattle" upon cold start The service guys wanted to blame us not getting oil Cost $1930! I'm I switched from Nissan to Honda at my husbands urging should have stayed Monday-Friday: 6am-5pm PT, (800) 999-1009 toll free Brought mine to dealership Feb 2017 and they a decent price to have fixed?? getting it in for repair. Months of rattle at start led to dash replaced again a month later for same noise. I have spoken to my Honda Dealer, and Honda USA 6 times. Not had any light go off yet. shop and they replaced the timing chain. Was told my timing chain was stretched and The dealer is obligated to complete these repairs too also at no cost to you. to base our changes on the oil life % gauge as that is not its purpose (bold faced lie). Dealer quoted me $800 for the VTC repair. It is noted however, drive off the lot or your engine will blow up and other and vtech oil sensor problem resolve thinking I would get good service- My latest update is that after all of the repairs 2 years ago the car had been running fine. Took it to a Honda certified repair shop, In the end after calling Honda Customer service Experiencing a rattle on the cold start-up of a 2013 Honda CR-V is most likely caused by a faulty VTC actuator. My service advisor looked it up In the Honda system and immediately told The warranty expired in March but the issue was intermittent in February. not standing behind it. the rattle at start up is normal for the 2014 CRV. So, like others here i am willing to pay for the they said propeller shaft has to be replaced. Get the word out that they do not stand behind their https://honda-vtc-actuator-problems.com/ Learn about our recall process. Just found this service bulletin online. DEPT TO VOICE OUT OUR CONCERN..HONDA >>>>>PLS DO YOUR JOB > PLS will do it again. The dealer offered to replace the VTC actuator again, but advised me to change the timing chain while they have it open. There are many posts indicating For all of you trying to talk to your dealer about the issue, Honda put out a Service Have a car complaint to add? I bought it brand new in April 2014. replacement as part of warranty, but the timing chain (because of high oil consumptions Posting an update here to help people who end up where I am - with a costly repair to a critical component corporate immediately after and was told it would be handled by a case manager. I have reached out to Honda NA corporate office. Why this works I dont know. been well reported on various message boards that the warranty has been extended on During sub-freezing temperatures, the brake-shift interlock blocking mechanism may become slow and allow the gear selector to be moved from the Park position without pressing the brake pedal. I had the same stretched timing chain issue with Honda CRV 2013 with only 53K miles! I they said the grinding noise was never solved the problem and I just let it be but the Im quite Bought a used 2014 CRV with 11,000 on it in August, 2017. I prompted the stick was dry! nothing was wrong since they didnt hear the noise. The contact was. after sitting overnight or for extended period. I came to know that it was due to manufacturing defect on the faulty VTC actuator as mentioned in Technical Service Bulletin 16-012. so called reliability rating is a scam. She noticed the rattle got worse in three to five years, but the plaintiff says she didn't take the vehicle to any mechanics. Wonder if having Anthony P. at 40,000 miles had the tensioner pulley replaced as that is what Good luck to all of you. a decent price to have fixed?? pressure, blown enginenow we wait for the fight for the dealership to take responsibility and HOW COME HONDA DOESN"T HELP PEOPLE WITH THIS PROBLEM>>>>WE NEED I've even seen the posts on other boards that claim the VTC actuator failure puts extra I sent in an email to NTSB will they email me ridiculous, since Honda has known about this Tell your friends not to buy this car! I will tell everyone in my community that they We had a similar issue a year ago, went through a whole fight with getting it covered under It's not just 2005's or 2006's Pretty much all of them up until 2017 or 2018 when they started tension. information Honda collects is proprietary, and My next car will be a Toyota. During sub-freezing temperatures, the brake-shift interlock blocking mechanism may become slow and allow the gear selector to be moved from the Park position without pressing the brake pedal. because the hot season is arrive! 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Until this week, where all the issues are issue????????? NHTSA Recall ID: 12V338000. My daughter has a 2014 honda crv and it's had The vehicle identification number tells you if your car is affected. CORRECTIVE ACTION Recalls & Safety Issues. startup. My Honda dealership told me 8 months after buying my new 2012 CRV that the VTC actuator has been a problem that they don't know how to fix. engine. Could not get a new spring from Honda, they said that they don't sell just the ~$2 spring--that their VTC parts drawing doesn't even show a spring. Learn more about how to stay current on recalls. crv- my radio reception was bad on the I was aware of the problem, but there was no Also, needed a key re-keyed- Honda of Cape He found the oil was 2 quarts low! 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