On another thread someone mentioned that street price for a new 828U Sport was already in the $3300 range. Here's the inside story of what they found and how they're rebuilding an industry giant. They include (l.): a shim kit that offers 40 different combinations of cast and drop adjustment; the Progressive Comfort recoil-mitigation module that resides within the buttstock; and interchangeable cheekpieces that can be swapped out to provide proper stock-to-face fit. Again, unlike shotguns of old, which required fitting by an expert and labor-intensive, permanent changes to the stock, the Benelli system is relatively simple to customize by the end user simply by referring to a fitting table in the owners manual. Same thing happened again first time I attempted to assemble/disassemble the firearm. IMO, I think in O/U shotguns, especially those used for targets, a receiver made of steel not alloy is a must. Benelli is not giving me any additional information, but have stated it is damaged and they will not repair or replace the wear I have apparently done. He eventually gave up on it and moved on to a more reliable gun. Realize, too, that this was legitimate wild-bird hunting among wide-open crop fields and across rolling terrain that was as natural as pheasant habitat gets. Your email address will not be published. It has a nice weight and balance, and has a battery that lasts up to 3 hours. The new 828U is ultra-lightweight at just 6 1/2 pounds. We have patterned several Browning shotguns featuring the Invector DS (Double Seal) chokes and found the tubes seem to pattern very well. My buddy bought one for a retirement present for himself. It was the worst over under I've ever shot. Recently, in a move unexpected by nearly everyone. " We pitted the Benelli 828U, retailing for $2,500, against the Browning 725, retailing for $2,470, both at the clay-target range and on the patterning board to see if the new smokepole performed as advertised against a proven product sitting in the rack beside it. I took "that" gun back to Scheels and showed them the issue and they like me knowing the issues I have had with the two different guns couldn't believe it either. My Browning Citori White Lighting 16 ga. feels just as good in my hands and about the same weight. The swing was beautiful but the recoil destroyed me. The stocks exhibit figure and also have fish scale checkering in panels on the fore-end and pistol grip. When innovation and inspiration collided the 828U was born the first over/under worthy of the Benelli Not sure how far you are from Ogden UT or Salt Lake City, looks like Impact Guns has a few in stock. The action on the Benelli Sport II is strong, fast, and flawlessly cycles pretty much any target load you try to feed it. Pressing it fully through its arc first withdraws two barrel locking pins from their recesses in the monobloc then rotates a lever fitted with a roller within the receiver that presses back a cocking plate in the trigger module to load the striker springs. In addition, such guns were usually made with steel receivers that bore the stresses of firing, meaning that their bolting and hinge mechanisms had to be made to account for wear that occurs after repeated use. It tipped the scales at 7.75 pounds and measured 44.75 inches in length, with our team finding no fault in its heft or handling ability. B Britlover Member Feb 19, 2020 #5 I bought one about 3 years ago. First I'm a Benelli guy, having 4 in my safe, but the first iterations that i saw of the 828U weren't too great. Its weak, problematic ejection, vulgar aesthetics, high recoil and annoyingly violent gun movement is topped-off with a nosebleed price. The internal recoil system did nothing for me, although I have had 4 shoulder surgeries. Excellent - 95%+ condition with or without box. Benelli has stated that the receiver has wear from improper assembly. Turning the lever to open the gun cams the bolt out of engagement with the monobloc, while at the same time uses a lever tipped with a roller bearing to press rearward on the chrome-plated wedge mentioned above, cocking the strikers. The lever cocking the firing mechanism felt very solid and is a new concept you don't see on other guns. A forum community dedicated to Shotgun owners and enthusiasts including the Remington, Beretta, and Mossberg shotguns brands. Im not a shotgun expert by any means but before I bought the super vinci a few years ago I picked up as many shotguns as I could and that one felt right immediately to me. When you are in a hurry, it is easy to forget to hold the pencil, or not to look at your phone. What should the discerning collector look for in a potential buy? 828U 04-2020.pdf (16.67 MB) For: 828 U Shotguns, 828 U Limited Edition. Benelli 828u Sport - First Look Review - NEW 2019 1,027,956 views Jan 25, 2019 The Benelli 828u Sport has just been delivered to us. Our trip to the patterning board before field testing on the clay target range with the Browning was an eye-opener. The internal recoil system did nothing for me, although I have had 4 shoulder surgeries. Same ejection problems and GMK unable to fix (not their fault - they didn't manufacture the thing). The 828 is a design that had serious potential, but is extremely lacking in configuration and execution. Benelli Model 828U No. Add in the sub-par patterning performance, plus some ineffective target busting time on the range, and our shooters said the new 828U stack-barrel does not live up to the standards of the high-quality semiautomatic firearm innovator. Benelli has very little experience with over/unders. The stock A subject close to my heart, and one I can grasp more easily than the benefits of a replaceable breech face, is gun fit. You are using an out of date browser. Everyone that I know that has bought one of these got over them fairly quickly. For a gun with some familiar features, such as a walnut buttstock and fore-end, the 828U also has quite a few unexpected innovations. The list of unusual features covers all aspects of the shotgun's operation, as discussed here. I feel like when I looked at them the longest I could find was a 28, 26" and 28" I believe in the 828uthe field gun. Back at the office, during the course of several weeks shooting in different settings and throughout several hundred shells worth of varied ammunitionwhether plastic- or paper-hulled, having high or low brass heads and in various payload weights and velocitiesan informal test group encountered no failures with our nickel-finish, 28"-barreled test sample. Hosts Mark and Robin Braatens comfortable lodge provided an ideal setting in which I was able to discuss the guns design with the Urbino-based engineer who spearheaded it: Marco Vignaroli. Though I wouldnt recommend it, I would love to see how it works with the other benelli pens. Ive made several small changes to my pen, and these were done using a pen for a few minutes, and then a few minutes of practice until I got the pen ready to use it. This is a simple function of physics; a lighter gun will deliver more recoil momentum to the shooters shoulder than a heavier gun. Crio -treated chokes in C, IC, M, IM, and F are also included. The only reason to buy one is because it says Benelli. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Lithe, purposeful and menacing in black, the 828U Sport looks like it's spoiling for a fight straight out of the box. I have shot a few of them on Demo days next too several other O/U. In combination with five drop shims and four cast shims, each of which fits between the receiver and buttstock, a few minutes of tinkering can result in 40 different combinations of stock adjustment. Until now, over-unders have been the province of traditional gunmaking, in which the various mechanical functions were interrelated by mechanisms that had to be finished by hand to ensure reliability. of No. A ragged pattern that might only cause a chip to fly off a clay target is acceptable on the range, but a crippling shot on a bird in the field because of ineffective pellet trauma is not. The gun was impressive, apart from a few nags:2 1) Auto safety ! He has used it in S.D. Estimated New and Used Values for a Benelli 828U Values are based on a basic model with no options or colors. In addition, the Model 828U has a unique lever that re-cocks the hammers when pushed to the right, rather than relying on opening the action to reset the hammers as in standard over-and-unders. Current offerings are in 12 gauge with 3" chambers and 26" or 28" barrels. Over on Shotgun World in I love my Benelli, there have been some problems reported about the 828 U trigger assembly dropping out, ejector problems and problems with the breech lock popping open. We were particularly impressed with the pattern spread, finding a very solid and uniform distribution of hits. Women On Target Instructional Shooting Clinics, Volunteer At The Great American Outdoor Show, Marion P. Hammer Women Of Distinction Award, Women's Wildlife Management / Conservation Scholarship, National Youth Shooting Sports Cooperative Program, Weatherby Brings Back the Orion Over/Under Shotgun, Winchesters New King Buck Classic Youth Sporting Clays Event Will Have $10,000 In Prizes | An NRA Shooting Sports Journal, Rifleman Q&A: St. Louis Arms Co. Re: street price. Doubles are supposed to find their appeal in durability and simplicity. Have you seen one or held one? Phillips-head screws hold the pad in place, which, once removed, allows access to the Progressive Comfort module. The cryogenically treated barrels, which are highly polished and blued, do not have side ribs, leaving a gap of approximately 5/16" between them starting 378" in front of their join at the monobloc to a point 2" from the muzzle. I think it is a decent gun for the money I paid for it. & hasn't had any problems with it that I know of. The First Benelli 828u video of UK Stock and we thought. But if you look at the under side of the safety lever with the trigger group out and work it back and forth you can see studs on both sides that ride under spring arms. I have never seen one being shot in person. That's harsh Randy, but I certainly appreciate the thoughts. I dont try and go fast and never use anything force, more just move the parts. My understanding is that there is a major difference in handling and recoil between the 828U and the 828U sport. But its also true that the 828U upholds at least one traditionthat of being a uniquely innovative and distinctive firearm bearing the now-famous marque of a motorcycle-turned-gunmaker named Benelli. The 828U makes some guys turn into hostile teenage girls. Posts: 2,178. It fit me very well (needed to switch to a lower drop shim). The "U.S. Rifle, Caliber .30, Model of 1903," better-known as the M1903 Springfield, has become one of the most popular U.S. military small arms to collect. 10701 12 Gauge, $2,500 GUN TESTS GRADE: C Although Benelli has a reputation for producing high-quality semiautomatic shotguns, we found the company's new over/under was lacking in both appearance and performance. I was in Walker MN this week and Reeds Sports had a few. In fact, Benelli became so well-known for its semi-automatic shotguns that it found itself a bit typecast. Of course, if a barrel does not fire, the plate remains in its extractor-only position, and separate rods gently press back the extractors, allowing manual removal of that unfired shell. Have only shouldered one, never had a chance to shoot one. These old-fashioned scatterguns are often viewed as traditional and many believe they simply can't compare to modern semi-auto or pump-action models. The silver receiver model, well it was not pleasant for me to shoot, and I've owned a few Benelli s/a's with no issues. Hardly ever. And that brings up another major point in describing how the 828U is different from traditional over-unders. But around 2012, Benelli engineers, spurred by the belief that they could contribute something new to traditional shotgunning, quietly began work on an over-under that would be engineered like none before it. Here are the features to watch out for. I have only seen one in the wild as well, a guy had one last year at a local shoot, 30 inch tubes, and black reciever, totally different looking gun in person then in videos and internet pictures etc. When I first got the firearm it became stuck in the cracked open position not able to come apart or even be closed. - Benelli. I did handle it, I couldn't get over how long the reciever was. According to Vignaroli, The modularity of the design means that the function of the various subassemblies is almost independent. He added that, Wherever it is needed is strong material; wherever it is not needed is light material. For instance, the aluminum receiver is unstressed, and departs even from other aluminum-receiver shotguns in the sense that its hinge and locking components do not directly bear the brunt of firing stresses. Its not like its a Chevy Have you got Scheel's where you live? For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Should not take a lot of force to snap closed. Beretta A400 Xcel "Black" Cole Special - Beretta A400 Xcel 20 Gauge - Beretta A400 28 Gauge -. The chambers are then machined directly into the monobloc to ensure precise chamber alignment and finish. I have shot one and it's definitely no slouch but after years of growing up on Bronwing SO's and now Beretta 68x guns I just can't get with it, it's just too "different" for me to get comfortable with. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. These dimensions are right on the average mark for an out-of-the-box shotgun, and our various team members had no problems adjusting to the fit. Connecting with birds under such conditions can be a challenge, and it requires a gun that points naturally, swings fast and predictably and is capable of shooting tight patterns. AgainI shot a very limited number of times. Every time I see him, I ask when I can shoot the space gun. In the case of the Benelli 828U, it's a matter of 'easy if you know how', and even then both removal and refitting of the breach face baffled me for some time. I have only seen one of the sporting versions in use in the area I shoot. It is a great pen, and I really like it. And due to the stupid barrel overlap at the receiver, you can't use sub gauge tubes. When I tried an 828U for real the felt-recoil was more than I'd want on a 100 target round - even on 24grm shells . As to the stock, Vignaroli said, The grip shape and wrist have been developed through studies of different hands and gloves to ensure a better fit and better approach to the trigger. A replaceable polymer cheekpiece allows for changes in comb height, and the Progressive Comfort recoil-mitigation system inside the buttstocka series of interlocking polymer tines that flex to soften the guns movement into the shooters shoulderis capped with a soft rubber recoil pad radiused at the heel to encourage snag-free mounting of the gun. Texas. So maybe nearer 10,000 shells down the tubes and an intermittent problem has appeared when the gun is warm - the bottom barrel fails to fire, all I hear is that faintest of clicks - rather than the typical sound of a triggered firing pin, the primer of the shell is untouched (have eliminated low primers, changed brand of shell to no avail), when cool it's back to . I even tried to tell her I wanted to buy her a new shotgun didnt fly when she saw the price tag. (12-gauge); 26, 28 in. Benelli Armi SpA of Urbino, Italy, is a relative newcomer to the gun business, having emerged in 1967 from its parent motorcycle manufacturing concern with an idea for a new type of shotgun action. I do, but no such luck, nothing on the website as in stock anyways, I'll call to double check. Such is the case with the new Benelli Model 828U that made a big splash at the January 2015 SHOT Show. Seems to me most of the guys shooting this gun are hard-core SBE shooters with a well developed sense of loyalty. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. It is released by pressing a button at its front. Oof. We did find that the balance point of the shotgun was slightly behind the lightweight, aluminum receiver, rather than the preferred point right between the hands as with the Browning. About 5 months in, it started doubling. The length of pull was 14.75 inches. Because of reasons like their better handling ability, two-choke option, and the fact that most clay target shooting is limited to taking only two shots at a time, stackbarrels reign over clays. Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. Rather, pressures are contained by way of a 1 1/4" wide by 2316" high by 15/16" steel breech block. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. If it doesn't fit you, look for a Browning 725 Sporting, Caesar Guerini Summit Sporting, even a Blaser F16 (used) is in the realm of possibilities. The floating breech block us intriguing, as are the re-designed ejectors. I forced it open and sent it in to Benelli who "fixed" it and sent it back to me. Bought one in 26"its 1" shorter than my SP1 was in 28", due to the longer action on the 828. Nsca # 540300. Benelli 828U Steel Specifications Chamber: 12- and 20-gauge (2 3/4- and 3-inch) Barrel Length: 26, 28, 30 in. Thomas Jefferson. JavaScript is disabled. Seems like a solid gun if you need a field O/U. Nice guns. Silver Reserve. An added benefit of the levers graceful design is that the shooting-hand thumb can rest naturally alongside it atop the receiver. I am not/have not advertised it; but, I'd likely sell it, it is just sitting there unused and unappreciated. *What is the (approx) street price for a new 828u Sport? Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. But have heard nothing but problems about the. Poor patterns, weak target hits, and uninspiring features all contributed to our low grade for this shooting tool. Both inserting and withdrawing shells and spent hulls, even with a gloved hand, is noticeably less difficult than with many other over-unders and a real boon in the field when reloading. Hello I purchased a 828U several months ago in 12 gauge, and have had nothing but problems. I tried the 828U a couple months ago. Condor. When a firearm manufacturer with a reputation of producing high-quality, durable semiautomatics ventures into the under/over market, a lot of shooters will take notice. I like the unusual appearance, most people don't. After all, its corporate parent since 2000, Beretta, had been in the gun business 441 years longer and, during that time, had managed to turn out more than a few fine side-by-sides and over-unders. Zent, reflecting on those early discussions about the 828U in Italy, said of the gun that he was finally able to hold and shoot, I think what we see now is very close to what was on the drawing board then. It is designed to provide a stronger, tighter seal, but to our eyes, it looks like something that could be found in a semiautomatic shotgun. The surprising part, though, was how nonintrusively it had done so. I would have it. Performance & security by Cloudflare. Download the appropriate manual for your Benelli shotgun or rifle. You must log in or register to reply here. It is a pen that is also very expensive. Assistant Editor Christopher Olsen, a dedicated hunter and clays shooter, described it as fast-handling and its balance as perfect. His sentiments were reinforced by his sister, Samantha, another NRA employee and a collegiate-level trap shooter. The matte-blued barrels and receiver helped reduce glare and seemed to be of high quality. With that being said, every gun I have bought I have shot beforehand, so it would be uncharacteristic for me to buy one without trying it, though it is clear there aren't many of these around. It handled very well on the clay-target course, excelled on the patterning board, and helps a shooter look sharp to his compatriots while serving as a solid shooting tool. The 828U is not cocked by any system of rods or levers, but rather by the top lever itself. 828U. The 828U opened and closed smoothly and felt solid at lockup. The swing was beautiful but the recoil destroyed me. Maybe it's not beautiful in every way, but the ability to adjust this firearm makes it a fine choice for . Looks goofy as can be, like a camo space gun, but I use it for upland, waterfowl, and turkeys and without an issue. The block also contains spring-retracted firing pins that are impacted by strikers during firing. I bought a Guerini instead with a kinetic balancer and love it. It's your money - your decision, asking strangers won't really help you decide- good luck. I have the model with the silver receiver. The companys first attempt at offering shooters a stack-barrel, rather than a semiautomatic, prompted our readers to call for our shotgun test team to put together a match-up of the Benelli 828U with a comparable model made by another firearm manufacturer. We value freedom of speech as much as we do the right to keep and bear arms. I am not aware of any of my hunting buddies (who never shoot clays) buying or using an 828. Wasn't that. I apologize if I mistook your replies for rudeness. The modified choke in the top barrel produced a 39-61 percent pattern, with 306 hits (46 percent) in the 20-inch circle around the center. When I first got the firearm it became stuck in the "cracked open" position not able to come apart or even be closed. For our firing tests, we set up at the patterning range where we quickly discovered that the Crio Flush Fit chokes (Cylinder, Improved Cylinder, Modified, Improved Modified and Full) included with the package were not a match for the Browning. Culminating in the 1993 introduction of the Super Black Eagle, one of the first semi-automatics capable of firing 2", 3" and 3" shells, the Inertia Drive system proved reliable to a fault throughout two-and-a-half decades of service in a series of models. It's the OU that folks love to hate, I guess it bucks traditional builds and some folks just aren't receptive to that. Make one with a steel receiver, adjustable rib 30" and 32" barrels, improve the trigger a little bit, and get rid the funky comb and people would be breaking down their door to buy one. Removing two more screws frees it for access to a nut on a stock bolt that fixes one of two metal drop plates. in front of their join at the monobloc to a point 2" from the muzzle. I'm seriously into shooting, I'm not a troll, and I have a lot of respect for the knowledge and experience of the people who post here frequently. Firing the Winchester Extra-Lite No. Manuals. Benelli's 828U shotguns deliver mandatory . The 828U is what you would expect from Benelli - a hardworking, lightweight and low-recoil shotgun. The company made its humble start in 1963in Gussago, Italywhen Giuseppe Pietta made a commitment to produce guns as authentic and true-to-original as possible. Buddy of mine bought one because he duck hunted with s SBE. This system has a set of interlocking polymer leaf springs in the stock to reduce recoil. I have watched Benelli videos, and have owned several over under shotguns, and have never had any issue like this before. Come join the discussion about optics, hunting, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! In the past I've found that Gunbroker is not a reliable indicator of street price, though I certainly could be wrong on this one. I have good things to say about all of them. Overall, our test team members were satisfied with that configuration. It is also very comfortable to write with. The most notable difference is that the 828 features a floating steel breech block within its' aluminum receiver. Elsewhere, we thought the stock, forearm, and barrel finish on the Benelli seemed to closely resemble the features of a semiautomatic, rather than exhibiting the typical look and style of an over-and-under in its price range. Shooting just a little high is exactly what a field shotgun should do to handle rising targets.

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